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Brasada Ranch! FREE 2 hour Public saddle fitting demonstration on August 1st 2010

Frank Lewis Impression pad usage: $15.00 if you would like to use it to determine your own saddle fit issues using my pad that day.

UPS GROUND or USPS whichever is cheaper. Sometimes I don't know until I actually take them in to ship them, since their internet calculator is often times inaccurate. I ship within 7 DAYS OF RECEIPT OF PAYMENT... I CHARGE $15.00 FOR PACKING MATERIALS AND THE BOX.

I LIVE QUITE A WAYS OUT OF TOWN SO I WON'T MAKE A SPECIAL TRIP BUT IF BUYER NEEDS THE SADDLE IMMEDIATELY AND WOULD LIKE AN "EXPRESS SHIPMENT" I WILL MAKE THE DRIVE FOR AN ADDITIONAL $20.00.

1) If a shipped saddle doesn't fit your horse.I have allowed you to have the saddle in your possession for 3 days b4 you have to to end it back. I will refund your purchase price minus the 10% restocking fee. You will be responsible to pay postage both ways. saddle must be received back at my ranch within within 14 days from date of original shipment from my ranch, and be clean and in same condition, it must be insured for purchase price at buyers expense in order to be accepted. If it is insured I will accept the saddle from the mail carrier and upon opening the box I will inspect the saddle for damages that may have been incurred while in your possession. If its been well cared for and still in same condition as when I shipped it to you then I will accept it for a refund. If not, I will expect you to mail me the shipping amount so I can return it to you.

Call me if you will be returning a saddle. I WILL ask u if you have taken care of it and it is in same condition b4 allowing you to ship it to me. I expect honesty! Don't expect to sneak one by me, ok? remember...I will be holding the saddle and the money...so play fair with me from the start! if its received a large scratch, bite mark or trailer rub or something of the sorts while you have had it. I will not refund. Then you will have to pay me to ship it back to you!

If you have shipped the saddle within the 3 days its allowed in your possession and the saddle is received back at the ranch within the 14 day return period then a 10% restocking fee will be deducted from the purchase price and the difference will be mailed within 10 days of receipt of saddle. IE: you received the saddle on a Monday it must be boxed and reshipped on Wed. if you received the saddle on a Friday it must be back in the mail the following Monday morning- so that it is in route that entire day)

*transport saddle in the shipping box or covered with a large plastic bag or saddle cover to prevent scratches and water damage.

*when handling the saddle out of protective cover be sure not to scrape it on walls or doorways such as in and out of trailer.

*put the saddle on a clean pad. Do not ride in the rain or on a "real ride" where it could get hurt until its yours!

2) If you have come to the ranch and brought your horse in order to buy a saddle and left with one that you are satisfied fits your horse and is comfortable to you then there is no return policy offered. The saddle is sold as is. If you change your mind~then you can resell it or you are welcome to call me and ask me what price I will buy it back at.

3) If you have come to the ranch to buy a saddle and not brought your horse then you have 3 days to try it and get it back to me ON THE 3RD DAY and I will refund the full purchase price as long as the saddle is clean and in same condition. If you can't get it back to me in the 3 days, then I will accept it back up to 7 days but will deduct a 10% restocking fee from the purchase price. no exceptions. If you tell me you can't get it back to me at the specified time then don't take the saddle until you can!

a) consignments -items not belonging to me- website will indicate a clients saddle by the words "on consignment or "owner asking"

c) if you have traded in your saddle towards the purchase price on one of mine.

5) But please understand that I am selling you a USED saddle, therefore it will have some blemishes when u receive it. Cosmetic/visual blemishes are what they are. If you bought it with a sweat mark, scratch or a missing concho you cant return it becuz it shows those kinds of usual wear on a used saddle. ok? so be sure to ask for enuf pictures that you can be sure its what you want to own and ride.

5) If I find that the saddle has been damaged upon return to the shop and I can not resell it~ then its your loss if you chose not insure it~ I will not refund your money.

Selling a saddle the way I have chosen to do it, with all the advice and time I spend with each customer prior their purchase decision I have had to modify my return policy several times in order to become satisfied with it myself. Its been a bit of a journey for me and I have been extremely unhappy with the folks who have brought their horse to my ranch, taken up 4-5 hours of my time, taken a saddle home and then called to return it for some bogus excuse expecting me to believe them....ugh...people! so I began to realize I need to protect myself from this continual reoccurance. Its frustrating. So please understand that my return policy is what it is becuz I need to protect myself from continual returns when people are allowed the time to find something cheaper AFTER they have had the benefit of a saddle fitting here at the ranch with their horse...

My saddles are guaranteed sound. No broken trees and no broken riggin up underneath. Every saddle that comes in is inspected by more than one person to be sure its safe and solid when it comes in and b-4 it goes in the box to be mailed out.

most of my shipping boxes are 21 x21x30 to 34 , so that box size needs plugged into the shipping calculator in order to get a proper shipping calculation. I will verify shipping prior making a shipping quote. but at least you can get an estimate prior contacting me. smaller saddles can fit into a smaller box....sometimes I have them, sometimes I don't and that is why I make final shipping calculation since I may be able to save you money by having a smaller box on hand.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT CAN MAKE THE DRIVE TO ME...I CHARGE A MERE $75.00 FOR A SADDLE FITTING SESSION. THERE ARE SEVERAL SADDLE FITTERS HERE IN OREGON...THEY CHARGE $200.00 AND UP. SO I BELIEVE I AM WORTH THE DRIVE FROM WHERE EVER YOU ARE.

If you purchase a saddle from me I will apply $50.00 of the saddle fit fee towards the purchase price of the saddle.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CALL ME AND NEED SADDLE FITTING ADVICE OVER THE INTERNET , I CAN ASSIST YOU QUITE ACCURATELY VIA EMAIL, PICTURES, VIDEO AND VERBAL CONVERSATION THE FEE IS $45.00. WHICH YOU CAN DEPOSIT INTO PAYPAL( madrick1@centurytel.net) AT ANY POINT B4 YOUR PICTURES ARRIVE TO MY EMAIL. THEN OUR DIALOG CAN BEGIN AND I WILL STAY WITH YOU UNTIL YOU HAVE LOCATED A SADDLE THAT FITS YOUR HORSE FOR NO ADDITIONAL FEE! (IF YOU PURCHASE A SADDLE FROM ME- $25.00 OF THE SADDLE FIT FEE IS APPLIED TO THE SADDLE YOU PURCHASE)

MY SOLE PURPOSE IN THIS HEARTFELT MISSION I AM ON HERE.... IS THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I HAVE HELPED THESE NOBLE ANIMALS BE MORE COMFORTABLE DOING THEIR JOBS AS RIDING COMPANIONS!

Cut 2- 16inch wires, copper is best but baling wire works! fold in half so there are 8 inches on each side. gently form the wire over your horses withers behind the scapula, making certain the entire wire is formed to the horse clear to the ends. Take it off the horse and lay it flat. place your tape measure at the top and drop strait down 3 inches, then measure the distance left to right from that point. then measure the distance between the ends of the wire. Then take a 2nd wire mold by placing the wire directly over the scapulas (usually 3-4 inches in front of the 1st measurement) and then measure the distances again. take a picture of these 2 mold on a light colored surface and email it to me with the pictures requested.

These are the pictures I will need in order to fit one of my saddles to your horse via the internet!

with these 7 pictures I can properly assist you in determining if the saddle you are interested in on my website will fit you and your horse!

also send me the brand name of the saddle you are attempting to use that isn't fitting, serial# if avail, gullet and bar width and skirt length from front to back.

Please understand that the height of your horse doesn't depict the size of saddle you or he will need> I've fit 13 hand ponies with an extra wide QH bar saddle and 17hand Tb's and Saddlebreds with Semi QH trees. The size tree your horse needs doesn't depict the size seat you as a rider will need. they are separate issues. Also please understand that an "Arab tree" saddle doesn't always mean narrow either. I've seen Arab tree saddles be wider thru the bars than full QH tree saddles. This depends on the maker. Some makers realize that alot of Arabs are flat back and mutton withered across the top and other saddle makers make their Arab tree to fit the thinner type Arabians so put a straiter bar tree in their Arabian saddles. Many Arab saddles have a contoured tree with more rocker- but your arab/horse may not need more contour so buying one of these would be painful for your horse. It pays to do your homework when buying a saddle to fit your horse as an individual. Most saddle makers have a website these days so email them and ask them about the trees in their saddles-even if you are purchasing a used make of their saddle, they are most helpful in after market sales of their saddles.

Please remember that as your horse ages he will need a different saddle, so be sure to reassess your saddle fit at the beginning of each new riding season.

So heres a little FYI to raise your awareness when looking at your horses back:

if your horses back looks like a church steeple from the top down. you will need a narrower tree.

If his back looks like the top side of a ball or the rolling hills of Missouri he will need a wide flat bar

If His back looks like a triple Mountain, a taller mountain in the middle (his wither)...this is where it gets tricky becuz you may only be able to fit his back with a wide tree but the slope of the shoulder is the final factor for this type of horse. My Peebs is this way and thru the years as he has gotten older I have changed saddles a few times in order to keep him in a comfortable fit.

If his back looks like a bowl you will need a tree with alot of contour/rocker to prevent bridging

If his back is really strait and there isn't much rise from the lowest part of the back to the top of the wither you will need a tree that is strait and with little rocker. but remember, you still need to determine wide or narrow bar! they are separate issues.

If your horses shoulder ties into his wither in the forward part of the wither, the center of his wither or behind his wither all means something too! becuz this is your horses shoulder action. the way he moves...you've heard the term a strait or slopey shoulder?

This factor determines whether or not your horse will need a tree with a flare in the front to the bars to accomodate the shoulder in and out of the gullet.

So! I know this is confusing....but I hope it helps you when looking at your horse or ponys back.

the difference between the semi qh, qh and wide qh tree is the angle of the bars and the width of the gullet at the top where the bars begin.

The semi QH tree is narrower at the top, but the bar angle is generally the same as a qh tree making the width all the way down slightly narrower than the QH tree by up to an inch from start to finish. whereby fitting a narrower horse both up on its topline as well as lower on the bottom of the tree. so fitting a horse without much upper or lower shoulder muscling. not for a wide bodied horse with a wide chest and big shoulder.

this crates trail saddle has a semi qh tree with the same gullet measurement as the "wide Qh tree" saddle on the right below, but has a straiter bar angle making the skirts drop down straiter along the body of the horse. this saddle is made for a narrower horse such as a tennessee walker body type, narrow without much outside shoulder muscling. while you might be fooled into thinking it would fit a heavy horse with a big wither but with his heavy muscling in the lower shoulder it would rub him painfully all along his ribcage at the bottom of the bars. So you MUST pay attention to the angle of the bar, which is the width of the bars at the bottom as well as the top.

The Circle Y roping saddle has a regular QH tree and is 1 inch wider in the gullet (the channel going down the back) which allows more room for a comfortable fit for a wider back and heavier shoulder. but the bar angle is generally the same as the semi qh tree...only having a wider beginning so a wider ending at the bottom of the bar.

The 2 saddles below are wide tree saddles. the first one is Billy Cook and its not only wide in the gullet but also having flatter bars to accomodate not only the meatier topline but also a wide body and large shoulder muscle. bull doggy built horses with wide chests and meaty lower shoulder. the 2nd saddle is a Clinton Anderson and its a wide tree as well, but has a narrower gullet which will make better contact on the top of the bars for some horses. but the POFC is the same on both saddles between the 2 front conchos. (so u must KNOW what your horse's body type needs b4 you shop!)

both these saddles have a wide QH tree, but the saddle on the right has a narrower gullet than the other. they measure the same in the bars where I am holding the tape measure. do you see how "flat" the bars are in the saddle on the right compared to the saddle on the left? the saddle on the right would fit a select number of draft horses due to the flat bar angle.(just to add a little confusion)

here are some general measurements that all saddles will fit into. please keep in mind that the brand of saddle and the type/make of tree they are building on varies brand to brand and even year to year-just like car bodies and styles vary year to year within the same make, right? When a saddle company discontinues buying the trees they are building the saddle on from one company ~ the new tree maker has his/her own idea of what a semi QH, QH and wide QH tree measurement should be- so while its still built on a qh tree...it could be up to 3/4 of an inch wider or narrower than the same brand and make of saddle you might have purchased 1 year earlier!!

tree variance also depends on the brand of saddles and can vary as much as 1 inch difference brand to brand( CircleY, Herford, Crates, Martin, Billy Cook etc) ...which is why I am giving you a range on each tree size.

here are some general rule measurements to assist you in deciding what tree your saddle has in it:

bars measure 9-10 inches

wade trees are different and so are gaited trees...these gullets can be as narrow as 4 inches! so lets just not go there, ok?

FYI: people don't often pay attention to loin pressure when attempting to determine saddle fit. This is a tree rocker issue, skirt length issue, or a padding issue. could be either or a combination.

the amount of contour or "rocker" that the tree has is an enormous factor in fit as well. No matter how wide the tree is, if its strait from front to back and your horse needs more contour (swayback) or visa versa- he needs a straiter tree (mule backed)... the tree won't fit. it will bridge-leaving gaps under the saddle or cause pressure points from a deep spot in the tree where your horse needs it to be shallow.

my best advice is to take your horse in for a saddle fitting with the saddle of your choice to be certain its a good fit for your horse. This is NOT something you should attempt to decide on your own. The purpose in my saddle educations section is to raise your level of awareness on saddle fit. NOT to assist you in making the final decision on your own. Saddle fit is a HUGE concern. People don't put enuf emphasis in making certain that their saddle fits their horse and this is a huge factor in horse behavior and training. If they are hurting how can they possibly concentrate on learning when all they can think of is getting the problem off their backs? Just becuz you are a trainer doesn't mean you are an expert on saddle fit! In ignorance, trainers attempt to train away a pain response. This is NOT fair to your horse! So please folks....I urge you to take your horse and saddle to a saddle fitting expert and have it checked out. And if your horse gains a buncha weight or widens with age.... have it checked AGAIN. Just becuz it fit when you had it checked 2 years ago...doesn't mean it will fit now.

heres an "aha" concept: do you wear the same size clothes as you did in high school? or since you've had children? or since your knee surgery 5 years ago? horses go thru body changes too! these changes mandate a new saddle!

and sometimes.....there isn't a tree that will fit your horse perfectly...so then a saddle fitter must compensate with proper padding...and I assure you that a traditional built up pad is NOT the answer!

as for your needs...... pant size determines your size seat. see "so you've bought a nice horse lets get started the right way" section.

I wish you the best of luck and I am sure in hopes I have a saddle in my shop that will fit both you and your horse.

I have posted pictures of saddle parts so that when you shop you can be articulate with your questions about saddle parts.

In this picture the gullet is the same on both normal and wide angle... however...the gullet CAN be wider or narrower...you would need to know what gullet width you need to fit your horse as well as the bar angle needed, and length of bar front to back...

and these are just the basics! becuz then we get into twist and rocker and taper and and and....

I know there is a glare on the tape in this picture. but the picture has been provided to show where to measure to. do you see the line of stitching clearly running around the cantle. It attaches the suede to the slick leather of the cheyenne roll on this cantle. Notice that the metal end of the tape is not pressed against the back of the horn, but instead raised just above the hole in the front of the seat and is pressed against the back of the swells instead. The tape can be raised up 1-2 inches from this hole without changing the seat size. but if you raise the tape up to the back of the horn you can actually gain a whole inch- sometimes more if the horn is a "forward" horn. Where by misrepresenting the actual size of the seat. That is why the proper way to measure is to press the tape to the back of the swells and stretch it tight and run it to the first line of stitching you come to on the back of the seat. A buyer can often be extremely upset when they have paid shipping on a saddle that the seat has been measured incorrectly...I know...I have been one of those buyers many times! This saddle has a 16inch seat

HOW TO PROPERLY MEASURE THE BARS AND GULLET OF A SADDLE AND KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 2!

1) the picture below demonstrates how to measure the BARS of a saddle where tree makes first contact to the horses back (POFC-point of first contact): this older Circle Y saddle measures 7.5. but is considered by Circle Y to be a QHBar at the time they were putting this brand of tree in their saddles... I consider it a semi QH bar compared to other trees (even within the circle Y brand of saddles) that measure a full 8 inches at this point.

2) the picture below IS how to measure the gullet: (this is a newer Circle Y fqhb-the measurement is 6- 6.5 depending on how you read it)

(just as in the top picture of an older fqhb circle Y saddle only this newer one is 8 inches instead of 7.5- BOTH are considered fqhb by Circle Y!)

4) below is the same newer Circle Y saddle demonstrating the bottom of the bars measurement(ie: where the rigid tree ends) measures 13 inches

5) the saddle picture below was recently sent to me by a client needing clarification. and while the measurements are improperly named- my reason in using this picture is to point out the 2 inch difference in the top of the bars when compared to the 2 Circle Y fqhb saddles shown above:

this saddle owner has named the top measurement a "gullet measurement" when the gullet is actually measured higher up where the metal brads end.

so this is actually the "bars measurement" or "point of first contact"- this narrow saddle measures only 6 inches: which is not even close to being wide enuf for the average QH unless padded up to set higher so that the horses back actually makes contact lower on the bars where the bars widen out. but by doing that you lose stability since there isnt much tree contact running down the sides of your horse. so you will roll side to side easier from side to side with less bar contact. and you will be tempted to cinch your horse tighter thinking that is the problem....but that will only cause your horse to become bitter about being saddled. so if u have been experiencing this problem.... get a WIDER saddle!

To measure the bars at POFC (POINT OF FIRST CONTACT) to the horses back (ie: the most important measurement when determining fit) The tape must be placed on front lip of saddle, level with the centers of conchos. The inside to inside distance between the front of the bars is how much room the tree provides for the horses shoulders to work. The bars is the place of "first contact" that the saddle makes with the horse. A good indicator of an ill fitting saddle is if this front edge buries itself (makes a dent or depression) into the horse when cinched down and you cannot comfortably get your fingers under the front edge of leather. If your fingers cannot comfortably fit up in there then imagine how your horses shoulder would feel to come up and repeatedly hit that with your weight in the saddle? Please keep in mind that this is only one of several ways to determine correct fit. also keep in mind that if your horse has a sway in his back (due to age or conformation), you may have to properly pad his back with the specialty orthopedic pads specially designed to fill in the hallows behind his shoulders or to fill in the low spot in his back between his shoulders and loins in order to get a saddle to fit properly (or order a modified association tree in your next saddle! remember: Corriente Saddlery makes an excellent one!) . also Rocking R arab tree is excellent for this type horse! Or if your horse s conformation "runs downhill" ANY saddle will slide forward and bear down in the front and bump his shoulders if its improperly padded. So pay attention to these types of conformation details when determining fit. Now a days the saddle fleece is no long an important factor on a saddle and should NOT be considered sufficient padding when combined with a navaho pad, or foam/fleece combination pad....there is NO REPLACING the necessity of a thick comfortable pad! There are several articles out that say the "skito pad" is sufficient padding also articles that say that the semi- quarter horse tree fits the majority of horses...as a trainer I STRONGLY disagree with both statements...they simply haven't proven true in my barn so why would I think they would anywhere else?! as for the skito pads....how would you like to have your hair pulled by sticky rubber material?

also...Too many trainers/riders don't put enuf emphasis on the fact that bad behaviour could quite possibly be a pain response and they try to "train away" the signs of pain and eventually tell the owner to get a new horsey....often not the best advice!

There are 5 things that I start with when I get a horse in with bad behaviour.... 1) ill fitting or poorly padded saddle 2) chiropractor needed

3) bad shoeing (painful angles or unbalanced hoof) 4) dental work needed. 5) unsoundness-(could be temporary soreness or a permanent injury or disease)

Justin Performance pad- approx cost 90--120.00

Air Ride Ortho Sport and the Cavello Western Bridge pad- these are great for the horse with hollows behind the withers

Twenty-X Elite pad- 120.00-140.00

Abetta Ultimate pad- 80-110-00

Reinsman Contour Swayback Saddle Pad-can be purchased from www.horsesaddleshop.com

the following pad is the one I recommend the most for the saddle fitting issues that cannot be solved 100% due to conformation:

professional choice charmayn james peanut pad (ortho sport)

Additional layers of SMx Air Ride™ material are strategically placed in the dished out areas behind the shoulders of- horses with high withers and strong shoulders to create a greatly improved saddle fit from front to back. Additional 1/4 inch layers of SMx Air Ride™ material -are also added down each side of the spine to relieve pressure from the spine and kidney areas while allowing additional airflow along the horse’s back.

please stay away from tacky too bottoms on your pads. they pull the horses hair and have no sweat absorption. if you already have one u can put a 1/2 inch felt pad under it.

here's a bit of "saddle pad trivia" for you to think about: a built up pad may cause more pressure on your horses shoulders PLUS! the rise in the front causes kidney/loin pressure in the back! so raising the front of your saddle only causes a different set of problems for your horse to cope with.

with the ortho sport pad or a pad that is designed to allows shims to be placed in the area behind the scapulas the saddle is raised up just enuf to level it out in the front without restricting or pinching shoulders

Please keep in mind that pads must be kept properly washed just like your personal garments in order to prevent chafing and bacterial skin/hair infections! Pads must be checked every riding season to be sure it has not compacted in the pressure areas and is no longer doing its job of leveling the load and absorbing the shock of your bodies impact.

DO NOT cut corners on the gear your horse wears. Comfort is as essential to your horses performance and maintaining his "happy and willing to work" attitude! If he is uncomfortable he will NOT be willing, and you will begin to see behavior problems such as pinning his ears, refusal to stand still or biting during saddling! refusing to lope, tail swishing or bucking.

Your saddle fit should be checked at the beginning of every riding season to be sure your horses back and/or weight has not changed making it necessary to buy a different saddle or at the very least a new and/or additional pad to adjust and/or absorb the ill fit.

MY FAVORITE PAD COMBO IS: A 1" CONTOURED FELT PAD WITH WITHER RELIEF UNDER A PROFESSIONALS CHOICE AIR RIDE PAD

when hez doin you the favor of packin you up the trail so YOU can have a relaxing time.

so PLEASE pay attention to the age of your gear, cleanliness and fit! just becuz your saddle fit your horse last year doesn't mean it will fit this year.

as your horse ages its back changes shape. In fact...their backs change shape from spring to fall of the same year due to weight change. So you may need 2 saddles depending on the time of year you are riding and the physical condition of your horse.

Please note: if you have a high withered horse that is narrow in the wither then drops down to wide shoulders.

try a MODIFIED ASSOCIATION TREE.... CORREINTE SADDLERY MAKES A REALLY GOOD ONE!

this tree will fit the sallow area between the wither and shoulder becuz it flares for the shoulder and then and narrows behind the flare (behind the shoulder)(this eliminates bridging) before it flattens back out across the back but has enuf height in the pommel to accomodate the high wither.

or at the very least buy a professionals choice smx air-ride ortho sport pad or a cavello western bridge pad that is built in behind the shoulders to elevate the bars slightly so as to allow for your horses shoulders to move freely under the bars without hitting them.

Click on the link below to read this EXCELLENT article on correct saddle placement/fitting and how to tell if your current saddle is ill-fitting:

(if u have one that I don't have listed PLEASE email it to me so I can post it!)

yes! you can believe your eyes! I have found another amazing colorado saddle pkg! FQHB. butter soft upgraded leather. comes with everything you need to ride! breast collar, front (36") and rear cinches and even a lovely browband bridle with an expensive bit AND reins! (email if interested in this piece since I forgot to take pics! PLUS! a saddle pad too! everything you need to ride except the horse! and you've already got that or you wouldn't be saddle shopping!

this saddle pkg comes with a front cinch and rear cinch assembly and matching breast collar. It s built on a wide gaited tree. bar length is 21 inches. tapered in front 2 ways to allow great scapula freedom.

Lovely saddle pkg. that is like new. The owner died and never got to use it much. Comes with all Colorado accessories:

breast Collar, rear cinch assembly, front string cinch. and your choice of stirrups. 4 inch cantle padded smooth chocolate brown leather seat. hardwood bullhide wrapped semi qh Bowman tree. weighs approx 46lbs.

NICE SADDLE. 6.5"gullet /7.5" POFC QH TREE. Mule hide wrapped horn. SOME MARKS ON THE CANTLE. BUT OTHER THAN THAT IS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE. SADDLE HAS BEEN PROFESSIONALLY CLEANED CONDITIONED AND SEALED. Metal oxbow or wide roper bell stirrups/your choice with full price offer. COMES WITH BOTH FRONT AND REAR CINCHES.

This is a lovely older Hereford all around saddle. I have replaced the fenders with the untooled fenders shown in these pictures. The buyer is welcome to have the old fenders as well, they are tooled. However, one of them has considerable cosmetic damage which is why I replaced them. They have the Hereford makers stamp on them to go with the serial#'s stamped on the skirt behind the cantle. This saddle has a QH tree with a 6.5" gullet. The fleece is real sheepskin and in terrific shape and still fluffy. As you can see, the leather is in good shape too. The white buckstitch is worn to a brown color in several places on the seat and jockey under the riders leg. It has all its tie strings. It has the bear trap swell with a fancy leather lacing on the seams. This type swell provides added rider security for downhill or ruff rides It has a deep center pocket semi equitation seat. The horn leather has been taken off so the horn is bare rawhide. I'm certain that something cosmetic can be done but to improve the eye appeal if you don't like the bare rawhide look. My leather maker quoted $125.00 to replace the leather wrap on the horn and I chose not to have it done. As a trail saddle it looks fine the way it is. whomever took off the cap did a good job of removing it. Saddle is sound in every way. tree is solid. It has slotted brass riggin D's. It comes with front cinch and leather tie strap.

LOVELY SADDLE PKG!!! comes with front and rear cinches and breast collar and bucking rolls.

This saddle sold new for $2600.00. It has the new cable riggin tree design which eliminates the need for a rear cinch due to the fact the cable balances the front and back of the saddle evenly. The cable weighs only oz's while full leather riggin weighs 6-8lbs! this saddle only weighs 24lbs! It is made of heavy buttery soft premium leather! not a cheap made saddle. This is quality all the way folks! real sheepskin fleece. wide 4 inch bell stirrups. Attractive Slick fork wade styling! brass D's and a fancy six guns concho behind the cantle! long tie strings. I have ridden this saddle for days at a time and its never made me sore anywhere! This has been my personal saddle and I hate to see it go...but I'm gettin a new one with a little fancier design. This one has been easy to keep clean thats for certain!

This is a very well balanced deep settin secure all day saddle! This saddle provides a very close contact with your horse- with all the freedom of a gaited saddle and the styling of a wade- this saddle should fit about anything with 4 legs and a mane and tail!!

Its been easy on my bad shoulders with its light weight design. comes with rear cinch assembly.

attention: Since posting my saddle, I have been asked many times by potential buyers if this saddle would be good for roping. I am not a roper. but in my opinion...the saddle design doesn't allow for lateral stability to take the pull of a cow on a rope. But I will call a custom saddle company that uses these trees in their saddles and ask them their opinion and will post it soon.

Nice saddle for the money. it has a new fleece (150.00) and new blevins stirrup exchange mechanisms on each side(60.00). saddle is in great shape and needing no repair. it is double rigged. has QH bars with a 6.5" gullet and 7.5" at POFC. comes with tie strap. off billet and rear cinch billets (no belly strap). new long tie strings for attaching saddle bags and such. weighs in at approx 34lbs. super low forward horn stays out of your solar plexes which great for shorter rider. 3" swept back cantle. wide leather covered bell stirrups. both breast collar D's in great shape. riggin tight. no bad. rotten or checked leather.

Running W border tooling only. Horn wrapped, rope strap, long tie strings, big bell roper stirrups, skirting cut away under leg for close contact. Comes with front and back cinches. QH bars. 6.5" gullet. bullhide wrapped hardwood tree~~weighs like a pig. some dings in the rawhide on the edge of the cantle. fenders have been narrowed at the top for more forward swing.

regular qh tree with a 6 inch gullet and 7 inches between the bars at POFC. skirt length 25", weighs 35lbs. double rigged. strings tied thru tree. real sheepskin fleece. attractive buckstitch edged seat. lowset forward horn. dropped swell. deep attractive oakleaf spot tooling. quality leather. free swing reiner type fender. VERY comfortable padded suede seat. needs no repairs. no ugly blemishes.

SEMI QH rawhide covered hardwood tree and matching rear cinch and latigos. never roped off. only trail ridden in so pommel isn't all scarred up.

Lovely saddle. Well cared for. always stored inside. leather is soft and well conditioned. suede is just getting broke in. This saddle hasn't seen alot of saddle time and is in excellent condition. 5.5" gullet and 7 inch bars at POFC between the front conchos. comes with rear cinch assembly and both latigos. has long tie strings for packing and has both stirrup hobbles. silver in great condition and not rusty or bent.

Custom saddle. hardwood tree with bullhide wrap. an oldie but a good one! brass hardware. strings tied thru the tree. deep secure seat/ padded all day comfortable. full \qh bars. 7 inch gullet and 8" at POFC

NEARLY NEW! COMES WITH BOTH FRONT/BACK CINCHES oxbow stirrups standard QH tree with 6.75 bar.

16" leather saddle. good QH tree and leather is in good shape-owner asking: $200.00

brand new Benchmark 16" pleasure saddle! QH tree- owner asking: $375.00 firm

Collectors BIG HORN childs 12" saddle. This is an amazing little saddle that I felt fortunate enuf to find! The detail on this little beauty attracts everyones attention when they walk into the shop!